against all odds machine gun review

Against All Odds Review

Threat assessment calculates your odds of survival at 3,721:1…unless you pull this trigger.

Against All Odds is a Legendary heavy machine gun.

This weapon is purchasable from the Crucible Quartermaster, and can also be rewarded randomly.


The good: Highest Impact & range.

The bad: Low stability & reload speed.

Conclusion: Almost perfect in PvE & PvP.

Read the full review here

This is a Legendary Weapon
Machine Gun (Heavy Weapon)
Solar Base Damage/Upgraded272/331
Quality Lvl60
Rate of Fire
Magazine Size

Aim Assist
Equip Speed
Recoil Direction

Talent Upgrades Tree (from the vendor)

Solar Damage

This weapon causes Solar damage.


More range and Impact. Increased recoil.

+5% Damage
+10 Range
-10 Stability


This weapon grows more accurate the longer it is fired.

Accuracy increases over time, up to 20% by the end of the magazine.

Upgrade Damage 1

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.


Switch weapons faster. Move quicker while aiming.


Kills with this weapon reduce the cooldown of your grenade.

Kills add 10% to grenade energy.

Upgrade Damage 2

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.

Upgrade Damage 3

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.


More predictable recoil. Slight boosts to range and Impact. More recoil.

+5% Damage
+5 Range
-10 Stability


Maximum Ammo capacity.

Upgrade Damage 4

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.


More range and Impact. Increased recoil.

+5% Damage
+12 Range
-15 Stability


This weapon can be drawn unbelievably fast.

Upgrade Damage 5

Increases Attack Power, resulting in more Damage.


Weapon Review

Against All Odds is a Legendary heavy machine gun which can be purchased from the Crucible Quartermaster for 150 Crucible Marks.

The default perks are listed above, but these can vary if you receive this weapon from an Engram or as a random reward in PvE/PvP. Click here to see all of its potential perks.

Be sure to check out our other Legendary weapon reviews as well.


Recommended Perks

Accurized Ballistics
+5% Damage
+10 Range
-10 Stability

Field Scout
Boosts magazine size to 50

The Good

Against All Odds could be compared to a very high powered scout rifle, and should be used as such.

Thanks to the extremely high Impact, tied with Jolder’s Hammer, it is entirely possible to kill another Guardian in the Crucible with 3 headshots. In PvP you’ll hit for 61 to the body and 76 on the head.

This kind of power carries over to PvE where most normal enemies will die in a single headshot, leading to one of the most ammo efficient heavy weapons.

The high Impact is complimented by Field Scout, which boosts the magazine size from 26 to 50, from 300 to 600~ rounds per minute.

Persistence and Grenadier further help with the ability to conserve ammo and improve its crowd control capabilities. Persistence really isn’t as much help in PvP, but more on that below. With Grenadier, kills add 10% to grenade energy, allowing you to completely recharge it in just 5-8 kills.

As you’d expect with a high Impact weapon, the rate of fire is low. Against All Odds has the lowest rate of fire. For those that prefer the opposite archetype, they may consider this a bad thing, but it’s really not. The low rate of fire helps stabilize the weapon and offsets the recoil.

This machine gun really shines in the range department, with the highest base range of any machine gun. You can use this to your advantage and you’ll be rewarded for pacing your shots from a distance.
against all odds legendary review

The Bad

It is not recommended to hold down the trigger for too long when using the weapon due to the extremely low stability. Thankfully the low rate of fire makes the stability much more manageable.

Furthermore, like all slow firing/hard hitting weapons, the penalty for missing a shot is much greater than missing a shot with a fast firing weapon, especially in the Crucible. It’s rate of fire is comparable to Jolder’s Hammer.

The reload speed is also below average, so you’ll want to pace yourself and your shots to make them count. It takes nearly 4.5 seconds to reload.

Linear Compensator and Field Choke are poor barrel choices, only slightly increasing the range and at the cost of stability.

Persistence is an OK perk, but really only helpful in PvE. In PvP, 90% of the time you should be killing your enemy in 3-7 shots, so Persistence isn’t going to be used at all. You need to at least hold down the trigger for half of the magazine to see any effect from that perk.


Featuring the highest Impact of all machine guns currently available, Against All Odds is akin to an automatic scout rifle with its low rate of fire, high damage per shot, and high accuracy.

All that damage comes at a price however, as the version purchasable from the Crucible quartermaster lacks any perks or modifications that help control the incredibly high recoil (besides Persistence).

Granted, the low rate of fire naturally helps to some degree to mitigate the recoil, but landing successive shots may prove difficult.

In short, this is an awesome machine gun for any style of play and it’s definitely worth buying.

For anyone who’s still using THE SWARM, this is a worthy replacement.

For PvP this weapon earns a 8.5/10 and for PvE a 8.6/10.